Just looked and I see you are from Thunder Bay, you are lucky to have one of the best bullet makers in the Province, Bill Mitchell in Mansfield ON, Buy a ton, why do I not use them? I bought 2 ton of Hottenstein bullets 10 years ago and when they run out guess who's bullets I will be using. Bill Mitchell's. I was given some (without his knowledge) and tested them and shot them, and was extremely happy. I will have to pay the same as you will have too, so there is no freebies. In fact I get so pissed off when people get "FREE" samples and write glowing articles on how good they are. Sorry I am ranting again!!