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Centerfire Discussions / Cactus Classic under way
« on: March 06, 2010, 08:18:16 PM »
Rob Seeman, Doug and Maxine Seib are there. Not sure if any other Canucks there.
1st day results at http://benchrest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68084
1st day results at http://benchrest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68084
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Off Topic / Reloading Primers!
« on: March 02, 2010, 05:44:10 PM »
When the going gets tough... the tough reload primers! Next time you run out of 205M's, this guy has the solution!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7nphPRG6JA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7nphPRG6JA
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: 1st time on site couple questions
« on: March 01, 2010, 03:11:36 PM »
Good looking group. Every rifle is a story unto itself. You do get examples of rifles that seem to defy the usual rules of what a rifle can do. This appears to be an exceptional example.
In regards to the fast twist 223 Rem and BR, the short range game (100-300 yds) does not really hinge on the BC of the bullet in use. The distances are too short to take much advantage of the reduced drift. BC comes much more into play at the longer ranges (600-1000 yds) and most shoot a fast twist high BC bullet to take advantage of less drift.
If we look at the various .224 cartridges out there, the dominant cartridges in short range BR are still based off the Lapua 220 Russian case. It is that good! For years the shortened PPC variants were quite prevalent in .224, and there are a few of us building them this year as well. The 223 Remington has never gained any significant traction in short range BR, mostly due to brass issues and it didn't fit the prevailing notion of a short fat case is better for accuracy. Not to mention it was seen as a stretched 222, which had run its course in BR 20-30 years ago. Right or wrong that is the way it played out. Could this particular rifle run with a 6PPC or 6BR? I couldn't say on the basis of a few targets, but it looks promising.
You are right, there is not much in the way of 300 yd BR, it is mostly 100-200 in the short range shoots. The LR BR is popular in the US, at 600-1000 yd.
In regards to the fast twist 223 Rem and BR, the short range game (100-300 yds) does not really hinge on the BC of the bullet in use. The distances are too short to take much advantage of the reduced drift. BC comes much more into play at the longer ranges (600-1000 yds) and most shoot a fast twist high BC bullet to take advantage of less drift.
If we look at the various .224 cartridges out there, the dominant cartridges in short range BR are still based off the Lapua 220 Russian case. It is that good! For years the shortened PPC variants were quite prevalent in .224, and there are a few of us building them this year as well. The 223 Remington has never gained any significant traction in short range BR, mostly due to brass issues and it didn't fit the prevailing notion of a short fat case is better for accuracy. Not to mention it was seen as a stretched 222, which had run its course in BR 20-30 years ago. Right or wrong that is the way it played out. Could this particular rifle run with a 6PPC or 6BR? I couldn't say on the basis of a few targets, but it looks promising.
You are right, there is not much in the way of 300 yd BR, it is mostly 100-200 in the short range shoots. The LR BR is popular in the US, at 600-1000 yd.
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: 1st time on site couple questions
« on: February 20, 2010, 07:10:31 PM »Hi Guys & Gals Correct me if I am wrong HV varmint weight is 13.5lbs. Does anyone shoot 223rem in benchrest or is it dead like the deuce?
I used to shoot hunter class in 70s with a deuce and then .308win a lot of other shooters where using 6x47 and some where building 6ppc and then benchrest kind of died in Ottawa area.
I shoot some Fclass with friends who shoot the fasttwist, .223rem some Hart barrels Kriegers 28" and factory Savages all with 1/7twist.
These dam fasttwist really shoot using 80gr bullets, I have seen quite a few 5 shot groups at 300y under
.600 smallest .510" , but the 90grs testing loads trying to get in the high 2800fps, using slow powders like Vt 540, 550, Rl 15 where really tight at 300y would they compete with guns used today in Benchrest.
My problem will be making weight limit with 30" barrel build is almost done have to weigh everything
manitou
Thanks for dropping in!
You are correct HV is 13.5 lbs.
Not really anybody shooting the 223 outside the club level matches. There are a few reasons, one is that 223 brass for years was no where near as good as the 220 russian from Lapua, or the Norma and Sako PPC brass. The other is that 223 would be somewhat overbore, so most guys would end up shooting a shortened 223 if they went that route, as well there is a bit of a track record now in the short fat cases and that seems to be working these days.
There are some shoots planned in Ontario. Check the Club Match section, for Listowel and Elmira. All 100 and 200 yd.
Rick
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Robertson Stocks
« on: February 19, 2010, 07:26:23 PM »
Gord,
you may not have seen this but Ian posted the following on CGN a day or two ago.
"I think the Robertson web site may change shortly with some news that will make many around the world very happy"......... "an expanded line (there is already over thirty models that many don't know about, Savage as well), deliveries the way it used to be, less that four weeks with some off the shelf while still maintaining the best quality in the world, and much more."
you may not have seen this but Ian posted the following on CGN a day or two ago.
"I think the Robertson web site may change shortly with some news that will make many around the world very happy"......... "an expanded line (there is already over thirty models that many don't know about, Savage as well), deliveries the way it used to be, less that four weeks with some off the shelf while still maintaining the best quality in the world, and much more."
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Participation
« on: February 19, 2010, 09:28:48 AM »
Spencer,
Looks like you are getting good feedback on CGN in regards to holding a match in the Maritimes. Be sure and let me know if you do get a match going so we can promote it here and on benchrest.ca
Rick
Looks like you are getting good feedback on CGN in regards to holding a match in the Maritimes. Be sure and let me know if you do get a match going so we can promote it here and on benchrest.ca
Rick
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Scarborough Stocks
« on: February 17, 2010, 04:16:01 PM »
Calvin,
Ian Robertson just posted the following on CGN:
"I think the Robertson web site may change shortly with some news that will make many around the world very happy"......... "an expanded line (there is already over thirty models that many don't know about, Savage as well), deliveries the way it used to be, less that four weeks with some off the shelf while still maintaining the best quality in the world, and much more."
Ian Robertson just posted the following on CGN:
"I think the Robertson web site may change shortly with some news that will make many around the world very happy"......... "an expanded line (there is already over thirty models that many don't know about, Savage as well), deliveries the way it used to be, less that four weeks with some off the shelf while still maintaining the best quality in the world, and much more."
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Robertson Stocks
« on: February 16, 2010, 09:31:18 PM »I forgot to ask. Rick what is the going price for a stock like you just received and what model is it?
Gary
It is a JTR BR
stock $260
two colour gelcoat $27
inlet action and barrel $144
alum butt plate $40
total $471
plus shipping and gst
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Centerfire Discussions / Robertson Stocks
« on: February 15, 2010, 01:31:52 PM »
Just received 2 stocks from Ian. Blue one is for a Swindlehurst and the yellow one is for a BAT SV. Both came it at 26 oz, with the buttplate, but no triggerguard. Looking forward to getting these going.
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BRSC - Benchrest Shooters Canada / Re: Match Winner Stickers
« on: February 12, 2010, 09:36:58 PM »
Those look great Calvin! Nice to have these sorts of mementos.
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BRSC - Benchrest Shooters Canada / Match Winner Stickers
« on: February 12, 2010, 03:28:05 PM »
Just had some new stickers made for the Rosebud Club. I had been printing these on the 3.5" floppy disk labels, guess what, nobody makes those anymore! I guess 8-tracks are hard to get as well.... Anyhow with any luck I will win one of these this year......
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Powder
« on: February 11, 2010, 09:41:58 PM »
Spencer,
I can still remember the very first time I bought primers..... a whole 200! Man, I was living!
Rick
I can still remember the very first time I bought primers..... a whole 200! Man, I was living!
Rick
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Powder
« on: February 11, 2010, 06:25:32 PM »
In the 6PPC I should see a jug of 8208 here shortly, going to give that a go as well. Did you get your from Raynor Shine?
In the waldog I have benchmark to try.
As for bullets I have barts, opels and some of my own left over to chew through.
In the waldog I have benchmark to try.
As for bullets I have barts, opels and some of my own left over to chew through.
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BR Equipment + Components / Re: Custom Cartridge Boxes (touch of class!!)
« on: February 09, 2010, 04:56:49 PM »
Mine looks just like the oak one above.
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BR Equipment + Components / Re: Custom Cartridge Boxes (touch of class!!)
« on: February 09, 2010, 03:06:39 PM »
Just got this an oak one of these in the mail. Looks good!
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Participation
« on: February 02, 2010, 08:08:55 PM »Hmm, the only range we have over 100 yards is the DND range, so tables would have to be brought on site if we wanted to do 100 and 200 yard. Is there a rulebook anywhere that I can download and look at? For the first couple outings, it would be pretty informal, but it would be nice to have a baseline to go by. Also, what is a good source for targets? What is the standard firing sequence, 2 sighters 10 for score? Is there downloadable/printable ones?
There is a pretty good chance of going to Ontario in the summer, so if any in Ontario wants to be the "pusher man" I'd love to come out and see what it's all about
100 yds is plenty to get things going. Much harder than it sounds. Rules for score shooting (hunter and varmint hunter classes) can be found here http://internationalbenchrest.com/index.php or http://nbrsa.org/ and can be downloaded. Targets can also be found there. I would not get too hung up on the rules just yet, as the idea would be to get participation going first. Just hang a score target every 10 minutes and have people blaze away at it. 5 bulls on each target, 5 targets (25 bulls in total), 1 shot on each record bull, and unlimited sighters. Highest score wins.
There are quite a few BR guys in Ontario, hopefully we can coordinate a trip to the range with a local shooter when you are out there.
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Participation
« on: February 02, 2010, 04:21:59 PM »
Spencer,
I am not aware of any sanctioned BR shooting in the Maritimes. It is really simple to hold an informal score shoot just using the 5-bull score targets. Our friends in Campbell River BC hold informal score shoots and draw a good crowd. No reason you couldn't be the first to hold matches in the Maritimes. Just run a "run what you brung" event at first and if the numbers increase then you can look at separating into a stock and a custom class.
If you happen to travel this summer, then by all means let us know on this board where you will be, and hopefully we can hook you up with someone in the area to push you down the BR slope.
First hit is free....
Rick
I am not aware of any sanctioned BR shooting in the Maritimes. It is really simple to hold an informal score shoot just using the 5-bull score targets. Our friends in Campbell River BC hold informal score shoots and draw a good crowd. No reason you couldn't be the first to hold matches in the Maritimes. Just run a "run what you brung" event at first and if the numbers increase then you can look at separating into a stock and a custom class.
If you happen to travel this summer, then by all means let us know on this board where you will be, and hopefully we can hook you up with someone in the area to push you down the BR slope.
First hit is free....
Rick
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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Participation
« on: February 01, 2010, 09:08:58 PM »
Spencer what range do you shoot at?
Rick
Rick
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