Brent,

A new action would be nice to have in Canada. We do have to wait a long time to get something out of the US.

Anyhow, having been down this road before I have a couple of thoughts.

Keep it light, with the trend to heavier scopes we need some wiggle room. I wouldn't want to have to source a bolt separate from the action itself, you are then back to dealing with ordering out of the US. Try and use an existing footprint for the action so we can choose from a variety of stockmakers without having to re-invent the wheel as to the inletting. It needs to cock easily, as everyone seems to be on to that these days in BR, so you can shoot quickly. I still really like the integral scope rail, but I may be alone in that idea. Of course dual porting and ejectors will be needed until someone figures out something that will let us shoot even quicker.

As to 2 lug, 3 lug or 4 lug etc and hall/barnard style bolts that is something I hope others can chime in on.

Rick

Stephen,

I would say anywhere from $1500 to $3000 depending on a number of things. If it is an older BR rifle in a right bolt right port configuration you will be for sure be down towards the $1500 range. If it is more state of the art with a recent custom action, count on getting closer to the $3000 mark, in particular if it is in a real nice stock.

As to dies and brass, each deal is different, if you can get those for a reasonable price, or thrown in, go for it.

Yes you should expect to re-barrel.

Rick

Calvin,

Great idea! What about a certificate for a barrel or a stock or a scope? Maybe a 1st, 2nd, 3rd place prize? Probably bring in a lot of non-BR people who don't have a use for a SEB rest (even though it is a great rest).

Rick

rpollock a big tanks for the inside with the contact here in estrie. Very appreciate !
For, your question a fire formed case have a .244 too the neck.
The guy who want too sell me the rifle have also tell me that the trigger is a Canjar adjustable for 1oz too 4lbs. With the deal i have a custom set trigger from brownells and 500 bullets sierra of 52 grain.

With this rifle and some pratice i hope i will be competite in the bench match next summer.
I have see what some bench guys are able too do and this is incredible.

I have a question for you guys: your rifle is glue-in or screw in the stock ?

Thank you for your welcome guys

Glad to provide a contact. That is the whole idea for the forum.

I prefer a glue in action, but there are just as many who prefer the pillar bedding and screw in action. Looking forward to hearing how things go.

Rick

Mike Darlow, Dan Opel, Rob Seeman

http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/2009/dec/29/family-funand-guns/

Goofy article by a goofy reporter.. However..... Clark County now apparently open.

Looks like a benchrest range to me, but not sure why the guys in the photos are holding shotguns?  Only 18 hr drive from Calgary. Rumour is BR to start there at some point, not sure when. Possibly the largest public shooting facility in the world.

Quote from: RJohansen on December 30, 2009, 07:40:57 AM

Great minds think alike???   Are you going with a no turn neck? I had originally had that in mind but have since changed my idea. I'm going to stick with the .242"

Read that .246 neck   not enough coffe this morning for the brain cells to have warmed up!!!

I am going with a light turn neck. I think it was .248. Been a while since I looked at the reamer spec. I had one years ago, and liked it, so thought I would try one again. They are fun to shoot. Quieter and less upset in the bags.

Charles,

Are you anywhere near Champ de tir de L'Estrie? They are holding informal centerfire and rimfire score matches. BR contact is Michel Ouellet ouelmic@vedeotron.ca
Club is located in Saint-Francois-Xavier ,near Sherbrooke Quebec. You may wish to get in contact with Michel, to get some local contacts in BR.

Back to your original question. The 22PPC is the original PPC which has since been modified into many different specifications. Most importantly you need to find out what the neck diameter of the current barrel is. It may be stamped on the barrel. Did the rifle come with any brass or loaded rounds, or loading dies? It most likely has a tight neck chamber and you will need to neck turn the brass to get it to fit.

Tell us a bit more about the rifle and what your plans are, and we can point you in the right direction.

Rick

Rick,
I think I put that wrong. I meant to say a smaller percentage of rifles would have been capable of agging in the teens. I'm sure we agree on that. Where we disagree is that I think they were technically capable of doing so but the shooter's expectations were a bit lower and lower expectations inevitably lead to poorer results. The point I am trying to make is that, in many respects, the equipment race is optional but shooter effort is not.
Now, Let's move on to components. Specifically, bullet design. Over the last 25 years or so, the trend has been toward bullets with longer ogives ans shorter bearing surfaces. In addition, the boattail fell out of favour entirely. Recently, there has been a bit of a resurrection of the boattail and, as well, some experimentation with shorter ogive bullets. Who likes what? Does anyone see a competitive monometal bullet in the future of the sport? Regards,   Bill.

Bill, I had dug up the winning aggs from 30 yrs ago then somehow lost the post last night, and decided to pack it in. Anyhow, here are some figures to try and put some context around this.  IBS winning 3-gun agg in 1979-1981 was in the 3's (Can't find if any teen aggs shot, but it can't be many with winnning 3-guns in the 3's) .

NBRSA winning agg in 3-gun in 2009 was .198". 19 out of top 20 positions in LV100 this year were in the teens. 13 Records fell this year at NBRSA Nats (yes it was a good week, but not a trigger pull - DanO will attest to that).

I think the shooters have the same tenacity to win today (in many cases it is the same 1 guy!), and in some cases the bullets and powder are inferior to 30 years ago (no Eubers or original 8208 today), and the wind is the same, and sand is still used to support the rifle at each end. By your own account most shooters had already started to move away from he Rem action around 1980, and yet the aggs continued to fall to the present day! Just based on the above I would argue that the rifles alone are responsible for about .100" improvement in the agging capability over the last 30 years. To be sure, we are at the point of diminishing returns, that was until this year when the NBRSA record book was demolished at the Nats!

I will give you this, an off the shelf BR rifle from 1980 "may" be competitive at the club level in 2010, since many people at the club shoot will have 1980's rifles in hand (myself among them!). I wouldn't want to take it to a Regional shoot or a National shoot. Very hot loads, 5 shot groups in 15 seconds, dual port ejector guns, cnc rifled barrels, stocks with keels, high mag scopes etc will all be working against you!

Bullets will have to wait for another day.

Rcik

Here are Shooter Profiles I had posted on the webpage:

Dan Opel Shooter Profile
Calvin Yanchycki Shooter Profile