Benchrest in Canada
Classifieds (Buy and Sell) => BR Equipment + Components => Topic started by: RayS on August 09, 2012, 05:23:33 PM
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Can anyone recommend a supplier for brass and bullets for the 6PPC. I'm guessing only Norma makes factory brass and since I really don't want to fireform .220 Russian brass I guess I will be using the Norma stuff. Any comments on the Norma quality. As far as bullets go I am open to suggestions as far a brands and weights (for 1 in 13.5inch twist). I can't find anyone here who stocks target/match bullets.
Thanks
Ray
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#1 what size is the neck?
#2 Why do you not want to fireform brass? It is one of the evils of Benchrest.
#3 68gr is the key word for a PPC, 13.5 or 14 twist.
#4 Norma PPC, brass, I used it once 15 years ago and have not used it since. Not knocking it, I got almost 3 firings on it before it went into trash can.
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Ray, the first thing is what is the neck diameter of the chamber in that rifle? That will determine whether or not you use Lapua or Norma in my eyes. For a .269 neck the new Norma is on the thin side. It is okay for a .261 or .262 to clean up. For a .269 I would use Lapua. As Bill mentioned it appears to not handle the pressure like the Lapua. I believe this may be so even with the new Norma.
What is your fear of fireforming? It is the NORM with a PPC.
In regards to bullets that is a tough one. Your guaranteed easy get is the new Berger Column Bullets. Lot of Berger dealers in Canada. Lyle Turton is just doing a BIG group order.
Dan Opel sells bullets but he out. The other is Bill Mitchell in Ontario who makes bullets. I do not have his contact info but someone might. That is about all I can tell you about bullets via the web.........
Supplier for brass, Peter Dobson of Hirsch Precision on the east coast.
Calvin
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Just looked and I see you are from Thunder Bay, you are lucky to have one of the best bullet makers in the Province, Bill Mitchell in Mansfield ON, Buy a ton, why do I not use them? I bought 2 ton of Hottenstein bullets 10 years ago and when they run out guess who's bullets I will be using. Bill Mitchell's. I was given some (without his knowledge) and tested them and shot them, and was extremely happy. I will have to pay the same as you will have too, so there is no freebies. In fact I get so pissed off when people get "FREE" samples and write glowing articles on how good they are. Sorry I am ranting again!!
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Bill, I got a free sample from Bob Kerr and have yet to try them...... LOL
So NO rave reviews from me.....
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Bill and Calvin:
My gun is a .263 and the reason I don't want to fireform right now is that the gun is brand new, never fired. I just got this gun yesterday from Jeff. I have read on the Accurate Shooter forum that Norma has begun production again on 6PPC brass and that the new product is far superior to their old stuff.
Ray
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Ray at some point in time we felt as you did. Since you have a .263 neck you can try the new Norma. It will/should clean up nicely to fit your chamber. I would turn for a loaded round diameter of .260-.261. Make sure you have the right bushings as well to get good neck tension on those bullets. The thinner necks appear to need more tension than the thicker. For a .261 loaded diameter I would have .257, .258, .259 bushings. Taking into consideration there may be about 1/2 thou springback after sizing this would give 1.5, 2.5, 3.5 thou of neck tension. Just my thoughts.
Myself, personally, I shoot a .269 neck. I am striving for 3 thou total clearance with a bullet seated.
Calvin
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Thanks Calvin:
Funny thing about your recommendation. I just got back from picking up my order from the states and the bushing sizes back ordered .257, .258,.259. The bushing shipped .256. I am going to try to get some Norma brass to get started with. I just ordered a 21st Century Shooting neck turning tool (Couldn't find a Pumpkin and Sinclair is out of stock on theirs as well as the bushings) so I am slowly getting to the point of actually being able to shoot the gun.
Ray