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First time I attended a BR match, it was a lot of fun

Centerfire Discussions / Poplar as wood for Benchrest stock
« on: May 19, 2013, 03:48:42 PM »
Hi all

A friend of mine who is a very knowledgeable br shooter tells me that poplar would be a very good wood for br stocks. Being in the millwork industry I kinda have a doubt about the softness of poplar.

Anyone heard this ?? What do you think ?

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: December 29, 2012, 04:30:28 PM »
Quick update. My stock is now part of my rifle "system". Got my hand on another Axis, I installed a Savage 12 heavy barrel in 308 winchester (1:10 twist) and a EGW 20 moa base, same as on the 223 action. I pillar bedded the brown hunting stock.

So next time I go shoot I'll have the choice of stock, caliber, and scope. I think the 308 will be better suited to BR than the 223. I'll devellop loads next season for this caliber.

Club Events / Re: Sherbrooke QC regional match schedule for 2012
« on: August 28, 2012, 07:00:30 PM »
I'll try to attend the event next year

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 20, 2012, 03:39:04 PM »
Thanks for the advice about the bag, I will keep all of this in mind. The pics were taken on my tablesaw, I will have a better idea when I go to the range.

About the balsa, it will work, but I think a 50 grit will be a bit to violent for balsa

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 18, 2012, 05:52:17 PM »
Done !

Next step is learn how to shoot free-recoil. I adjusted the trigger as low as I could, more than that and it shoots when I close the bolt.

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 17, 2012, 04:50:17 PM »
I use the grinder that is on the picture beside the stock. Grit 50 sandpaper, dust collector, and I finish with an orbital sander

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 17, 2012, 02:09:42 PM »
Thanks for the comment

I bought a can of metalic blue in the automotive section at Canadian Tire, and it turned out that it was not a metalic finish, so I decided to get some Krylon blue, turned out pretty nice IMHO. And I had extra, so I did my front rest the same, why not !

Next step is to re-assembled the action into the stock, make the single shot plate, and go shoot !

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 15, 2012, 07:25:21 AM »
Started the shape yesterday.

Buttpad is 1/4 aluminium

Getting there

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 11, 2012, 10:48:12 AM »
I try to remove it as soon as I remove the action from it. It is still "fresh" and easily removed. Then I wait a couple of days before I re-assemble the action.

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 11, 2012, 05:56:53 AM »
Next step is the pillar bedding. Here is the action in the stock, just to get the idea.

Next is the preparation for the bedding. I use the method found on the net that is called a "stress-free pillar bedding". The idea is to glue up the pillar in Devcon. So I made the screw hole bigger, and prepared the pillar.

First, cut the screw to lenght. I insert a thread die, cut the bolt with the cutting wheel, and I remove the die, cleaning the threads.

Then I prepared the pillar. I use tubes found in the electrical section of hardware stores. They can be cut to lenght, have a perfect internal diameter, and the outside is threaded so the Devcon grip properly. I put a couple of layer of electrical tape on the screws so they are centered in the pillar. When I remove the tape later the screws will not touch inside the pillar.

After that, preparing the action with the usual shoe-polish and plumber stuff to avoid mechanical lock

Here is a trick. I clamp the stock in the vice and I make sure it is level. When I lower the action into the stock for the bedding, I put the level on the scope rail, and it tells me if I am level or not.

And this morning (the bedding was done yesterday evening) I removed the 2 screws, and the action popped right out, revealing a very good bedding job IMHO. It needs a bit of cleaning, but it will be good.

To be continued. I am currently in a home-reno project, so it might take a couple of days before I touch it again. The Devcon will have time to dry properly.

Centerfire Discussions / Re: Lenght of pull and overall lenght for stock
« on: August 02, 2012, 02:02:01 PM »
Thanks for the invite, but I'll be on vacation with the wife at this time, unless I can find a way to persuade her. That for sure would be fun.

I'll see what I can do.... In the meantime the stock is started.

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 01, 2012, 06:59:10 PM »
And all I had to do was glue 2 1/2 inch strips on each side to make it a bit under 3"

I also made a small piece to delete the mag opening, it will all be sanded smooth later

Now it is all glued up, next step is refining the inletting, pillar bedding, and then shape the exterior

Hope you like it so far.

Photo And Video Gallery / Re: My benchrest stock making
« on: August 01, 2012, 06:55:39 PM »
So, now I need to give it a shape. Here is a pic I found of the style I want to give it, and the same with a couple of measurement I deduced.

But first, lets have a look in the rule book. It says that 18 inches from the boreface, to 4 inches lower that the bore line, the buttstock must not be straighter than the line (sorry for my english, you get the idea...)

I did the cut a bit more angled, just to make sure.

Next I needed to make it longer. I use baltic birch plywood, 4 board of 1/2 inch glued together. It comes in 60 x 60 sheet, so my Axis blank are 29 3/4 in lenght. Since my stock will be painted (some blue I think) I don't really care about glue lines, the y will be sanded smooth later.

So I took the piece I just cut and prepared it to extend the stock

Photo And Video Gallery / My benchrest stock making
« on: August 01, 2012, 06:47:49 PM »
Hi all

I'm fairly new to the game, so I have to start with what I already have. I want to shoot in a couple of events next year in the Heavy Varmint class. So here is what I have to start with. Please don't laugh, we all have to start somewhere.

Savage Axis 223 action
Savage 12VLP barrel 1-7 twist
Rifle Basix trigger
Vortex crossfire 8-32x50 scope

Ok, I know all of this is way out of what you shoot. I want to shoot benchrest a bit like you play golf, trying to improve from your last shot all the time.

My current stock was made by myself to do a kinda do-it-all rifle. I will keep it in the safe if I go to shoot an f-class prone type event. It could have been ok for benchrest, but when I did it I made a belly shape to help keep the bipod in place, and it does not ride the bag that well.

And here is the action out of the stock. The low-price Axis has a recoil key as opposed to a recoil lug. It fits in a 3/16 groove in the stock.

I offer after-market laminated stocks for Savage Axis. What I do is I inlet a couple of blocks in advance, when I get an order I finish the shape and I apply the finish. I had a couple of blocks ready, and among them one that the mag was not fitting properly. Since I will bed the thing and shoot it single shot, no problem in taking this one that was taking space anyway.

If you have any questions do not hesitate. Start with the inletting in a square block, and once the barreled action fits, do the exterior. If you do a bedding do it before doing the shape.

It helps a lot, thank you.

When I start the stock is this something you would like to see (step by step built) ?

Centerfire Discussions / Lenght of pull and overall lenght for stock
« on: July 30, 2012, 01:18:23 PM »

I'd like to make myself a new stock for my Savage. I am use to shooting prone and to hunting gun, never shot with the "free recoil" technique.

Is there any particular tips you would like to share before I start ? Do I make the LOP shorter, longer or about the same as my hunting stock for a benchrest stock ?

Also, what would be the overall lenght ? I have blanks up to 30 inches, but I can go longer than that.

This is for a "Varmint for Score" rifle, if this helps. I already have the rule book, so I know about the 3 inch wide foreend, the way to measure the slope on the buttstock, and the overall weight.

Thanks a lot for the help.

Off Topic / New to benchrest (and on this forum)
« on: July 29, 2012, 09:54:01 AM »
Hi all

My name is Bob, I live in Thetford Mines PQ. I have been shooting milsurps most of the time (Lee Enfields) and last year I bought a Savage Axis in 223 (please don't laugh) to build a project. Why an Axis ? Why not. I made a new stock for it, installed a 12VLP heavy barrel, new trigger, and now it works good.

I am a stockmaker also, made a couple for benchrest rigs and also for F-Class. I am also making Axis replacement stocks.

I wanted to shoot F-Class but the closest long range I have access to is 1h15 away, so going there more than 4 time in the season is a bit expensive.

So I decided to try my luck at benchrest. My range is 100m, so I figure I can learn a lot there. There are also a couple of competition near Sherbrooke that I would like to attend to next year.

I'm here to learn as much as I can. I don't have a big budget, I shoot a 223 rem and I reload for it. I want to do all I can to make my gun more precise.

Here is a picture of my modest 223. I plan on making a new stock for it.

And here is my best group so far. It says 3 but there are 4 in the hole, this was done with 60 grain Berger bullet, with CFE223 as a powder

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