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Centerfire Discussions / We have fallen behind
« on: March 07, 2010, 07:14:21 AM »
I see the Seib's made it to the Cactus. They are now a match ahead of us! Lots of teen aggs. in the L.V. 100 shot in the AM.There are 2 posts on Benchrest .com with some good pictures as well as the results from yesterday.

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: 8208 XBR
« on: March 05, 2010, 08:00:05 PM »
I got 27.8 at 49 clicks and 30.6 at 50. .4 gr.per click. But that was right after it arrived from ontario. Am going to check it again this weekend. Was at the range testing some scopes today. Was warm enough I was wishing I had brought the bench gun!

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: All this talk about powder....
« on: February 20, 2010, 08:03:26 AM »
I did an interesting test with my rail gun last summer, using different powders. All tests were with the same bullet, primer, and case. All test loads were thrown on a Harrells measure, not weighed. Powders were H322 extreme, Benchmark, and S322. All were done with no change to seating depth.
Benchmark - I never got a group that didn't have some vertical in it. I went from 47 cl. to 49.3 cl. and the best was a 1/2 bullet vertical. Now if that was the best powder I would have played with seating depth from there and likely found a tune. But that was the only one close changin 1/2 clicks on the measure.  If I did find a seating depth that worked it would be like balancing razor blades ( as Mike Ratigan calls it).
H322 showed the normal tune window with a second node 1 to 1/2 clicks higher.Not bad and I have used 322 long enough to be able to keep it in tune. But then I had to try the S322 that I had 8 pounds of. Started at 49 cl. and went in 1/2 click intervals to 51 cl. before I got anything that had any vertical. That means almost a full grain of powder variation is staying in tune and hitting in the same spot on the target! The cheapest scale or measure out there probably would be accurate enough to make everyone in benchrest rush out and by the latest great deal on a cheap loading tool.
Now this is a nice problem to have, but as with any great component, will eventually leave you with salty soup. (crying in your soup for you Calvin).
You hear about it all the time, someone gets a few pounds of a powder or a few hundred bullets (that are no longer made or available) and there is nothing like it. I bought this powder from a former bench shooter who gave me a deal because it was faster than the previous lot and nobody liked it. I don't even know the lot number as they bought a bunch of it in bulk and divided it up into used 8 pound jugs.  I am only guessing when I say S322, but it is black and came after GI322 so is likely the Scottish made powder. I have enough of the same components to shoot one big match this year. It is locked up in a safe place and will be given a grand fairwell party in Kansas City next fall. What better place to use up a great Hodgdon powder than at a range within a few miles of where it originated? And yes Calvin as soon as the unlimited shoot at the Nationals is over all Canadians can watch me eat a bowl of very salty soup!

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: All this talk about powder....
« on: February 15, 2010, 07:55:11 AM »
I have been wondering about it. I don't think I have a scale accurate enough to produce any better loads than my Harrels does already. That is not saying I am throwing perfect loads, just need to spend a lot of money on a scale. Looking at Jackie Schmits groups his weighed charge of 31.4 gr. is definately better than his thrown charge, but one group doesn't really tell the story. I have an RCBS 1010 and don't trust it. I also have a cheap digital and trust it less than the 1010. I am thinking of getting the new Hornady auto charge and try it at the range under " normal bench rest loading conditions ". I still believe in loading at the match as have seen too many changes in loads during a match. Others I know come preloaded and don't seem to have a problem. I am sure this is a debate that will go on for a long time.

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Powder
« on: February 13, 2010, 09:16:55 AM »
I just buy it on my Visa and figure out how to pay it off later. Can't take it with you so no point trying to hang on to it. I just hope when I retire the government can keep me in the bench rest style to which I have become accustomed to!

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Graham Flags your next purchase
« on: February 12, 2010, 06:28:10 PM »
Thanks Rick for the info it is much appreciated.

Tony I think  a few of you guys at Rosebud need a uppy/downy flag at your 100 yard berm when shooting 200.

I can hear Paul now.... WTF is that......... ??? ???

Later
Calvin
I don't want to confuse Paul anymore than he is already! I will save that for you! It would be interesting to see what they would do though.

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Powder
« on: February 12, 2010, 06:21:15 PM »
Got mine from Higginson. Needed some 4895 and varget. I like the fact that over 21 pounds he pays the shipping. The case is definatly going to be full when you use it. Looking at getting a 12 inch drop tube. I need to slow down with my measure anyway as I found out the hard way last year!
30.2 gr. is half way up the neck and it looks like the guys in the States are getting pretty good groups at over 31 gr. Still have lots of 322 if it don't work. If it does I hope there is enough left of the same lot to get more!

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Centerfire Discussions / Powder
« on: February 11, 2010, 06:00:01 PM »
So what is everyone using this year? Anyone trying something new? I am running out of bullets and powder for the rail so will have to start testing and tuning when it warms up. I have enough rail components for one or two big matches. Have been using S322 and Bruno 68's. Will go with Barts and ? for powder. Got a jug of the new 8208, 13 pounds of H322 and down to 4 pounds of N133. Hope I can find something she likes before it is shot out!!!!!!!!

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Graham Flags your next purchase
« on: February 06, 2010, 05:06:38 PM »
Last year I had the tail on my close flag go straight up in the air just as I touched one off. Almost an inch low at 200. I actually think Tacoma is worse for vertical. I think it is because they have a birm at 50 and it continues flat to the 100 etc. In other words each birm is level to the next yardage. I never see a tail go up in the air, but you get vertical and it can be up or down from point of impact. If you fire the next one holding for it you may as well pack up and go home.

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: ATF form 6
« on: February 06, 2010, 11:52:54 AM »
Yep, even saw guys rejected after already having one the year before.

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Graham Flags your next purchase
« on: February 06, 2010, 11:51:19 AM »
Sure gonna try. My only firm trip so far is the Nationals. I'd like to shoot the July match with my rail if I can work it out. Our daughter is in Vancouver so I could drop Sharon there and head to Tacoma the next day. Would work out pretty good. Will depend on finding a new load for the Rail as I am using Brunos and S322 powder and only have enough left for the Nationals. Of course it is too cold up here to do anything right now. Be glad when winter is over!

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: ATF form 6
« on: February 05, 2010, 07:29:45 PM »
Sure like it since they started letting you fax it to them. Used to be a lot slower when you had to mail it.

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Graham Flags your next purchase
« on: February 05, 2010, 07:27:00 PM »
Hi Rick,
Your new vertical indicating flags look pretty cool. Should be handy at Tacoma eh?

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Centerfire Discussions / ATF form 6
« on: February 04, 2010, 05:58:53 PM »
Got my form 6 back today, approved, so Kansas City here I come!!!!

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Centerfire Discussions / Re: Graham Flags your next purchase
« on: February 04, 2010, 05:43:29 PM »
I think the regular ones are great. Unless you have a special reticle put in  your scope the flat tops are not required. Most of todays high magnification scopes don't have enough field of view to see flags in them and really gives you tunnel vision. The flat top can be set up a couple of inches higher, but not sure that 2 inches makes a lot of difference. I know it don't at Rosebud anyway.

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I bought my first BR rifle from Clive Moehn for 800. with a 33 power Leupold (24x boosted by Siebert). It was a sleeved 600 remington. He picked me up and took me to a score match at Namaka. On the way he told me that if I liked the gun he would give me a good deal on it. I ended up winning 3rd place and beat him with his own gun. Anyway the match ended and we were on our way home. It remained quiet for quite a ways and I finally asked how much more that gun was going to cost me. We both laughed the rest of the way home. He still gave me a good price on it and that gun shot real well after I put a new bbl. on it. Like a fool I sold it a couple of years later and bought a Panda. That was also owned by Clive, and it shot even better. The bbl just up and gave out right in the middle of the Alberta Provincials one year. Jeff and I started trying to figure out how many rounds that bbl. had and between the 2 of us decided it must have been near 4000. It shot solid .250 aggs right up to the match it gave up in. There were actually pieces of metal missing from the inside when we pulled it off, and I made it to the end of the weekend by not shooting a sighter and JBing it after every 5 rounds. Used bench guns are usually a pretty good deal and if like Dan said you find one that the owner is having a bad day can be an even better deal! 

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BR Equipment + Components / Re: Custom Cartridge Boxes (touch of class!!)
« on: January 27, 2010, 06:54:41 PM »
Wat are you going to engrave on it WASP WHISPERER?

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Off Topic / Re: ATF Form 6NIA questions
« on: January 26, 2010, 05:45:52 PM »
I always put down lots of components. You don't have to take everything you put down, but I always worry that I will want to take something that I didn't list!!!! I always put down that I carry spare bbl's. and scopes for varying conditions and equipment failure.

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What you will find is that most used BR rifles have around 800 rounds down the barrel. It is surprising how fast that used gun can get shot out. Once you put a new bbl. on it you will likely get about twice as many rounds. Now having said that if Jeff has one for sale buy it! He tends to sell the best shooters to other guys.

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Photo And Video Gallery / It's not always about the shooting
« on: January 17, 2010, 09:36:43 AM »
Sometimes it's the scenery

Gig Harbor campground

Gig Harbor

Pikes Place
Sometimes it is about new freinds

Tacoma BBQ For anyone who has not been to Tacoma, I recomend you do it. Bring the wife and see Pikes Place market and Gig Harbor. And definately visit Russ Haydon when you are at Gig.
The campground at Gig is one of the best Sharon and I have ever stayed at. The labor day weekend is a good one as lots of fresh fruit at the stands and Pikes Place market ( a must see!)
Sometimes it is about old friends. Regina in 2009 was the most fun times I can remember, Awesome BBQ put on by Doug, Max and family!
Regina 2009









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