My barrel is a benchmark as well Phil . I have a Harrells tuner Calvin . i have had good results with center x , and did try some Midas as well, it seemed to be better than center x . i started by fouling the barrel ,then shot ,5 shot groups at each number 1 -5 on the tuner . i shot 5 shot groups because i shoot center fire BR , i will have to try the 3 shot method . Is everyone shooting at 50 yards ? . i did some shooting at 100 yards on a calm day just to see , again 5 shot groups , midas won that one . Thank you to everyone that replied . there is some excellent info here . Steve .